Friday, May 13, 2011

Osama Been Laid(in) Tora Bora awhile

Osama Been Laid(in) Tora Bora awhile

When the news first broke that alleged Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden had been caught, killed and then thrown overboard at sea, the mainstream media were quick to call the procedure a traditional Muslim burial, or more subtly “a burial at sea in accordance with traditional muslim rites”. However the simplicity of this account has backfired and added to the suspicion that his burial was some kind of cover-up or complete psyop. The history of Bin Laden is hardly clear-cut as we’ll soon find out.

At a glance you may come to the conclusion that sea burials themselves are some kind of tradition in Islam. Indeed a look on Wikipedia for Islamic Funerals lists Burial at Sea as an option.

But if we take a closer look at the detail, a burial at sea could be nothing further from tradition:

“This is, however, a tradition, specific to each culture, and not found in the Quran. However, even in cases of drowning, all effort must be made to perform a burial in the ground.”

In other words sea burials are a last resort for those who have died at sea, not something Muslims might choose in ordinary circumstances.

Islamic scholars and experts soon made the facts clear.

“Dumping the body into the sea is not part of any Islamic ritual,” said Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy and a physician of internal medicine. “Koranic scripture says God created him and he must return to the earth.”

The addition of this entry in to Wikipedia seems out of context and irrelevant to the main topic of Islamic funerals. The Christian Burial page features no section on sea burials [2], so why add it to the Islamic page?

If we check the edit history of the page in question, we find that the entry was only added after the news that Bin Laden had been executed. At the bottom of this screenshot you can see that it says May 3rd.

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[Update: Somebody with some sense has now removed the sea burial section from the page]

One conclusion we could draw from this is that somebody at the time wanted it to seem like Burial at sea was an Islamic tradition in order to mask the fact that dumping Osama’s body (the evidence) in to the sea is extremely illogical. How is anybody ever going to properly verify his death without a body? With something as important as the death of the world’s most notorious terrorist it shouldn’t be left to the word of the US government alone. Not when there is far more evidence that he died years ago and that the establishment have continually lied about and manipulated the image of Bin Laden, and covered up the fact that he was a CIA ally for a number of years.

Osama Bin Dead For Ages

The Pakistan Observer reported that Bin Laden died of untreated lung complications and was buried in an unmarked grave in Tora Bora on December 15, 2001. This was picked up by the American media.

Also on December 26, the Egyptian newspaper AlWafd – Daily carried a short obituary by a prominent official of the Afghan Taliban, who was allegedly present at the funeral, stating Bin Laden had been buried on or about December 13. This was reported in British news.

You only have to look at one of his videotapes at the time to see that he was on his last legs. He appears pale and sick:

An expert reporting to CNN noted:

"You can look [at pictures from a December 2001 video] and notice that he has what some doctors refer to as sort of a frosting over of his features — his sort of grayness of beard, his paleness of skin, very gaunt sort of features. A lot of times people associate this with chronic illness. Doctors can certainly look at that and determine some clinical features.

But even more than that, it’s sometimes possible to differentiate the specific type of disease or illness that he may be suffering from. The sort of frosting of the appearance is something that people a lot of times associate with chronic kidney failure, renal failure, certainly someone who is requiring dialysis would have that."

According to Pakistani President Musharraf in the above CNN article, Bin Laden required two dialysis machines. He concluded: “I think now, frankly, he is dead.”

Osama Bin CGIed

The image of Bin Laden is a carefully crafted hoax. Before his most recent death, the west would use him as a propaganda tool to support their various agendas. They claimed he was wherever they wanted him to be.

It was only about a year ago that we were told he was living in Iran under the protection of President Ahmadinejad. As we reported at the time in the article (Bin Laden In Iran? Get Real), this was ridiculous because Bin Laden and the Iranian majority worship completely opposing versions of Islam. This was just another piece of propaganda to demonize Iran, along with their thoroughly debunked Nuclear Threat.

Since the months surrounding 9/11 every tape released alleging to be Bin Laden has been marred in controversy. Many were just audio tapes; easily faked, others appeared to be carefully edited video re-cuts.

After the 2007 tape was released it was quickly analyzed by experts. CNETnews reported:
In analyzing the video, Neal Krawetz of Hactor Factor, an expert on digital image forensics, said in his latest blogs that the video contained many visual and audio splices, and that all of the modifications were of very low quality.

As documented in the WideShut documentary 7/7 The Big Picture – the tape heralded as Bin Laden’s confession to orchestrating the 9/11 attacks was re-translated by German experts and found to be fake, in that the US claimed he said things that he clearly didn’t.

Professor Gernot Rotter, scholar of Islamic and Arabic Studies explains: “Regardless of the question if bin Laden personally was actively involved in the organization of the attacks or not: This tape is of such poor quality that many passages are unintelligible. And those that are intelligible have often been taken out of context, so that you can’t use that as evidence…The American translators who listened to the tape and transcribed it obviously added things that they wanted to hear in many places. Things that can’t be heard – never mind how often you listen to it.”

The available evidence suggests Bin Laden died shortly after the 9/11 attacks and ever since then fake videos and stories have been leaked to the media by elements of the international intelligence community to justify the western agenda in the Middle-East.
Osama Bin Played

It’s not entirely clear how much the real Bin Laden knew about the New World Order agenda. What we do know is that he was the CIA’s ally for a number of years. A likely scenario is that they simply used him as a tool and then threw him under the bus when they were done.

Bin Laden first came on to the scene in 1979 when Obama’s Columbia University mentor Zbigniew Brzezinski (then National Security Adviser under President Jimmy Carter) developed a strategy to defeat the Soviet war machine.

They would entice them in to a conflict in Afghanistan while backing the Muslim opposition.

As revealed by Brzezinski himself to Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998:

“According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention…We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.”

Code named Operation Cyclone, the CIA funded, armed and helped train hundreds of thousands of militant Muslims (known then as freedom fighters or the Mujahideen) to fight the Soviets; it was here that Bin Laden began working with the CIA to nurture this Muslim army.

On whether he regretted creating this fundamentalist force, Brzezinski responded:

“What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?”

Three years later the Twin Towers were attacked and the US mounted an invasion in to Afghanistan, claiming it was those stirred-up Muslims who were to blame.

Bin Laden became enemy number 1 and any mention of America’s own involvement in creating what would later be labeled Al Qaeda was swept under the carpet.

The anomalies surrounding the 9/11 attacks and the evidence that suggests elements within the US government/intelligence community helped carry them out are far too numerous to investigate for this article, but what is worth mentioning is former FBI Translator turned Whistle-blower Sibel Edmonds, who testified that the US were still working with Bin Laden up until the day of 9/11 itself.

At the same time aid had been given to the Taliban up until at least 1996 with talks about a gas Pipe-Line in 1998.

It was soon revealed after 9/11 that an invasion of Afghanistan was pre-planned before the attacks.

This all suggests that Bin Laden’s Al Qaeda and the Taliban were built up on one hand, just to be taken down by the other. If Bin Laden did die in 2001 it made the whole operation easier because they could fabricate his bogeyman status and use it to further demonize other countries the west wished to invade and pillage.

They’ve wheeled out his death now for a number of reasons, it helps Obama get reelected, it distracts the average citizen from important issues like the economy and the illegal operations in Libya and it gives the pretext for further attacks on Pakistan, who will be blamed for harboring Bin Laden. The overall goal in all of this is full spectrum dominance of the Middle-East.


One mainstream headline claimed Bin Laden’s sea burial fuels conspiracy theories, but what’s really fueling these quote “conspiracy theories” is a decade of deception and outright lies. If we had a transparent trustworthy government that didn’t fund and train Muslim extremists, work with Bin Laden himself, fake videos and invade innocent countries, a burial at sea could possibly slide. But we don’t, so his burial at sea is highly suspicious for the reasons already outlined.

Perhaps what’s even more suspicious is that he was murdered to begin with. If you had the world’s leading terrorist in your clutches, somebody that was allegedly still signing off on attacks and would obviously have a treasure trove of information….would you kill him? Or would you maybe ask him a few questions first?

The first official story (of course like all of these dubious events it’s already changed a billion times), Bin Laden was resisting so he had to be neutralized. But as the Guardian is reporting:

The US has backed away from its initial account of the killing of Osama bin Laden, which claimed that the al-Qaida leader was carrying a weapon and fired at US troops before he was shot dead.

On Monday, John Brennan, a counter-terrorism adviser to Barack Obama, said Bin Laden was “engaged in a firefight” with his assailants and he did not know if he “got off any rounds”. Other US officials briefed that he was firing at members of the US navy’s elite Seal Team Six.

However, subsequent briefings by US officials suggest that, when confronted at the high-security complex in Abbottabad, Bin Laden did not have a weapon and did not fire at his assailants.

Nobody knows what’s going on for 100% fact, that’s just the nature of secretive government actions, but judging from the available evidence it’s much more likely that Bin Laden has been dead for years, thus they would have to report that he’d been shot and his burial at sea is a way to dispose of the evidence, or account for the lack of a body.

What we have is a complex web of lies with more lies being added on top. The majority of the public are running around like headless chickens, wrapped up in the superficial patriotism of it all; making it even harder to expose the truth. Off the back of this the Obama administration can justify numerous abhorrent actions, and we’re already being told to expect a retaliatory attack from Bin Laden’s so called loyal followers.

The future doesn’t look too bright, but the saga continues.

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Charlie Swooney said...

Thought provoking.

Dew Mosley said...

yeah... deep.

Levi said...

America is so full of crap.

Lukka said...

yep, osama bin dead a long time past

dodo said...

Dead like in my name.

doggone said...

No doubt in my mind now, he's been long gone.

Calypso said...


A Bhagoutti said...

The lesson here is never get involved with anything American or you end up a dead patsy.

Zardus said...

Obama must really be stupid as stupid does. Why couldn't he have these briefings to subordinates, did he really have to go place his neck to the guillotine?

xenophobia said...


He craved a little bit of pride and glory :)

garout said...

And is OBL's death supposed to change anything? If anything at all, gloating about it makes us all less safe. It will breed negative aspirations that'l endanger us all eventually.

Anonymous said...

I think this is right. Many original reports stated that OBL had died in Tora Bora due to lack of medical treatment for failing kindey's. That is why the fighing was so hard there because they were making thier final stand.

If you wanted to continue a war you cant say the guy your after is dead.

The war is not about taking over the middle east, the war is about keeping counties buying and selling oil in US Dollars so our economy dosnt crash.

Just like the unjustified bombing of Lybia. So we don't like that Kadafi dosnt want to sell oil in US $$ take him out.

Because if you didnt know; the freedom fighters in Lybia were Al Qaeda!!! Funny that were help the same people we are at war with??

I love my Republic of the United States, but political powers are begining to seperate the ultra rich and the rest of us. They want us to think that we are a democracy, lets vote on this lets vote on that, but were are a Republic. Governed by LAWS that were not supposed to be continuously changed. Our federal govnt was only supposed to keep the states from waring with each other and safe from outside threats. Not going way overseas and fighting a bunch of small countried that can not mount a true army attack against us.

WW1 justifed, WW2 Justified the rest is just a bunch of crap. Protect our borders use that money on Homeland security and stop wasting all our money.

And the politician need to stop taking money from big companies and the damn lobyists...

As Ben Franklin said "What we have given you is a Republic... If we can keep it."

Anandengineers said...

The addition of this entry in to Wikipedia seems out of context and irrelevant to the main topic of Islamic funerals.
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